Been very slow for us. At least they average bigger this time of year in our area. Mainly still using the 7.62x39 with 8M3 but also with Wolf 125sp lately. It is actually softer than the 8M3. I have shot around 30 with the 8m3 and recovered one bullet 8 with the wolf and just one exit. Drug the 18in 6.8 out with 120sst to see if I can cut down on runners. If they make it 15yards in our area you will not find them. Just shot one with the 6.8 but he was the biggest I have killed in a few years. 50 1/2 with a 55-56in gut. Of the last five all have been over 120 with a 270 and the big one that I’m thinking 300+. Had 5-6 singles that I forgot to take pictures of.