Isn't it nice when the hogs cooperate? Went out with my new AR in 7.62 x 39 and had plenty of opportunities to test it out. It's a 12.5" barrel and I'm shooting Tula hollow points. I think I'm going to give the soft points a try I'm not too happy with these so far. Lots of hit and runs. The soft points have worked great in my 308 in the past.